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Mike Burns: Maybe Not Who You Think He Is

This is not Mike Burns. Obviously.

I'm certainly not the first one to look at possible replacements for Steve Nicol since his departure two days ago. Several of our fellow Revs outlets (most of which are listed on our blogroll to the left) have already put some names out there, some good, some bad, and some baffling.

I'll get to that.

First, I want to address something that caught my attention two nights ago, when Stevie's departure was announced and Jonathan Kraft went on The DA Show to conduct a radio interview. Among other things (most of them frivolous that we either already knew or won't take seriously - an SSS in 12 months? Really? Like the sixth year in a row they've said that), Kraft announced that Mike Burns was going to lead the coaching search, and all hell broke loose on the #revs twitter hashtag.

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I will be the first to admit that I was one of them. I, like most of us, naturally assumed that "VP of Player Personnel" put Burns in charge of scouting and acquisition operations, which would make him Public Enemy #1 in Foxboro to any fan who's been paying attention. A quick look at his bio on the website does little to dispel that myth:

"In his current role, Burns oversees the technical staff on all aspects of the club, including on-field performance, administration, player development and team operations, including player and staff personnel decisions. He also oversees the team's youth development program, which was established in 2008, and its integration into the first team."

So, he's basically the GM, right? Well, read closer. If you do, you'll realize something - that paragraph didn't tell any of us anything. It could mean that this man controls the destiny of literally every member of the soccer operations staff at Kraft soccer, current and future; or it could mean that he's the guy that signs off on stuff and that's about it.

I've recently learned that the reality places the truth somewhere in the middle. Brian's primary focus as VP of Player Personnel in the past few seasons has been negotiating contracts and signing players. I'm not going to apologize for some of the mistakes made there - for Christ's sake, we really couldn't afford $150,000 for Jeff Larentowicz? - but let's all remember, just because Burns writes the contracts doesn't mean he signs the checks. We all love a team headed up by probably the cheapest, most disconnected ownership in the league. He can only pay people the money he's given. Before we tar and feather the guy, let's give him a modicum of leeway.

The entire technical staff gets involved in scouting and such, but the reality is that Stevie identified his targets and the club signed players Stevie wanted. One of my tweets in particular looks foolish when you understand that fact:

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Stevie went to Africa, and Stevie came home with Niouky. Now, keep in mind, that also means that Stevie went to Africa and came home with Sainey Nyassi and Kenny Mansally, who haven't been great but certainly haven't been the worst acquisitions of all time. That means that Stevie is mostly responsible for bringing in Ilija Stolica and Marko Perovic, too. It means that many of the biggest player acquisition gaffes of the last half-decade have been on the illustrious manager's shoulders as well, but frankly, that's life in this game. Sir Alex Ferguson is the greatest in the world, possibly of all time, and even he signed Eric Djemba-Djemba.

It does serve to illustrate, though, that the jury may still be out on Burns as a driving force in this front office. With a new manager may come a new setup and new ideas, and that could be a good thing for this team - I can't confirm how I know this because I need to keep my sources confidential, but I do know that two recent positive decisions in the personnel department were engineered by Burns. It was Mike who signed Diego Fagundez even though Stevie wasn't sold yet, and both Burns and Sunil Gulati (name drop) made the Benny Feilhaber signing happen despite Nicol's misgivings.

Did Diego really do too much to change team fortunes? Apart from creating buzz, optimism, and excitement, no. Was Benny worth his $300,000+ salary this season? Despite some really, really positive performances, many would say that's debatable. But were they among the best acquisitions the team made all year? Beyond a shadow of a doubt, yes. That's not a knock on Stevie at all, it's just the truth.

So before we write off next season as a disaster and start shouting epithets about 1998 and covering posts and all that, let's step back and see what Mike Burns can actually do, given the freedom to work. I still don't think the Revolution will be where they need to be without a bigger, more dedicated scouting department backing up this front office, but maybe this coaching search is Burns's chance to shine. At the very least, knowing now what we know, he deserves a chance to prove his competence, and I'm willing to give it to him.

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Stevie went to Canada

I believe Mansally and Nyassi were playing for The Gambia in the u-20 world cup in Ontario when Nicol recruited them. Started an african revolution (no pun intended) around the entire league – and not just with the Revs.

by henry5 on Oct 27, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought about adding that as an aside

But I figured it didn’t make too much difference. But yes, they were both originally scouted in Canada at the U20s.

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by Steve Stoehr on Oct 27, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for posting this

I remember the time I read the article about the Revs being among the seven youth academies tied for second best in the country all behind FC Dallas. My exact words were “damn you Mike Burns, you win this round!” One of the best things we have going for us right now is the academy and Burns as well as Brian Scales deserve a lot of credit. Mike gets a lot of hate from being the “VP of Player Personnel” but he worked his way up there and though we say the Krafts don’t care about the Revs they had to have recognized something in Burns to give him a promotion.

From what I recall this year he and Stevie did scouting, I’m not sure if Burns joined SN on the pre-season trips but he definitely went with him to personally scout the “DP that never was”. So, we let him have it for scouting out Caraglio and Zerka on youtube, but honestly are they the worst acquisitions this year? Clearly, no.

by cbrown4747 on Oct 27, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't use Burns as evidence the Krafts care

I’m willing to bet he was a pretty cheap option. When the Krafts first hired him, he’d just retired from playing and had no administrative experience.

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by Steve Stoehr on Oct 27, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really Steve?

Did you just join the Revs payroll? If yes congratulations. If no, shame on you for writing this article.
How can you in anyway this that Burns has done anything positive? Let’s go down the list:
Fagundez: Most exciting player this year and use in a way that he will be out of the game in 3 years. He has started 3 games and already had a terrible concussion. What did Burns had to do with it? His signing were so terrible that he relied on a freaking 16 years old to create excitement. This is bush league.
Feilhaber: Revs go lucky to sign him. Chivas and Philly said no. I bet Gulati used his US soccer power to make it happen somehow. Olay this is a weak conspiracy theory. But remember that the Revs signs Feilhaber because they sucked the prior season (allocation spot). So we have been rewarded for sucking. Once again, not a strong endorsement of Burns.
Caraglio: Signing someone based on you tube video? Are you freaking kidding me? You endorse this method?

What about firing Perovic, the best player last year and the 4 games he played in 2011? Unless you are a Kraft pawn, you cannot defend this decision.

I’ll stop here but this blog is supposed to be for and by the fans. If you sold out or bought in, at least be honest with us.

Go Revs.

by ExiledinUSA on Oct 28, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Relax.

Relax and read what I actually wrote. I made the following points: 1) Steve Nicol was primarily responsible for all signings made during his tenure, good and bad. 2) Mike Burns negotiated contracts. 3) Mike Burns has made mistakes negotiating contracts. 4) Mike Burns gets no money from the Krafts to pay anybody on those contracts, but still makes mistakes negotiating contracts. 5) Mike Burns is NOT actually in charge of all scouting and player acquisition. 6) Mike Burns forced through the signing of Fagundez, over Stevie’s objections, which is apparently something that didn’t often go on. 7) Mike Burns and Sunil Gulati signed Feilhaber when the opportunity arose, despite the fact that Stevie had misgivings and was not in favor.

And, most importantly, 8) MAYBE we should give him a chance.

I fail to see where this puts me on the Kraft payroll, or how I “sold out” or “bought in.” As for this blog being for and by the fans, I also look at it as my duty to impart information to the fans that they may not get anywhere else. And I know that when I learned this, it definitely made me think twice about my own criticisms. I’m not saying this organization is good at much of anything – I never have. I’m not saying Mike Burns is a stellar FO executive, either – I’m saying maybe the jury is still out, and the sky isn’t falling. He still has plenty of time to prove his incompetence. All I’m saying is that it hasn’t been proven yet, or at least not as comprehensively as we may have thought.

As for Perovic, don’t forget that I sought out Marko’s opinion, then asked the organization for an explanation, received their side of the story, saw it for the BS that it was and put their feet to the coals on it. I have defended nothing about that situation on the side of the organization, because there is nothing to defend.

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Twitter: @Stoehrst or @TheBentMusket

by Steve Stoehr on Oct 28, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got it!

My point is that it is an occasion to clean house and may be get some decent FO executives. Replacing Nicol by itself will do little if we have the same organization, we will have the same results.
Burns was an average US player and I am not sure what credentials he had to take his job other than being a yes man.
Gulati is a total waste. Any US Soccer executive who understand the game would have forced Bradley to play his best 11 against Spain. Saving them for the gold cup? Are you kidding me? No one cares outside the die hard like me about the gold cup but playing the World Champions get people attention. And what do they see and believe? That the US don’t belong. I was at that game and felt ashamed.
There is ZERO soccer acumen in this organization. The Krafts care about the Pats and $ and the Revs is an opportunity to have the stadium used 17 extra days of the year and land the occasional high profile international.
Gulati and Burns are no soccer finesse. May be good at counting $ bills but not at developing or building. Do you think that all the credits you give Burns (Fagundez, Feilharber) was more marketing oriented than soccer oriented? It looks like it to me.

I am always worried when people change their stripes and promote the corporate view. I will give you credit and believe that you got convince of Burns quality. I am not. But let’s agree to disagree!

Go Revs!

by ExiledinUSA on Oct 30, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not convinced

I’m just saying give him a little leeway. This, from what I’ve been able to understand, will be the first time we’ll really see Burns given the chance to work in a capacity similar to what we all thought he was already working in. I don’t know if he’ll do well or he’ll do awful – I mean I’m inclined to think awful – but the point is that we don’t know and we can’t know yet. That’s all.

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by Steve Stoehr on Oct 30, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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